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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 2263
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 2:13 pm Post subject: BILL HANDEL ~ AT ONE IN THE MORNING |
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| I heard a KFI promo, during his show, congratulating him. I think it's great, Handel has an excellent show, glad he's getting ratings and recognition. Also, Mirada and Wall, they're part of the reason he has the #l spot. |
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Crimson "Misguided Station" Refugee


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1776 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Hurray for Handel! I heard him congratulating his cohosts at some point over the course of this past week. Gallacher, Marotta and Wall definitely deserve part of the credit for the five and six o'clock hours. Here's an article on the topic: http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/radio/cl-et-carney22apr22,0,6435063.story?coll=cl-home-more-channels.
On another message board, some minimized this victory for Handel, attributing it to the recent departure of morning king El Cucuy, who held the spot for six years with a 7% share. Personally, I would tend to doubt that Spanish and English radio stations are interchangeable goods. Then again, those 7% had to go somewhere! What do you think? |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 2263
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 10:11 am Post subject: Radio Ratings |
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Hi Ken,
I agree, the english and spanish audiences are not at all interchangeable.
I copied the article you cited, it will follow. How come it says Handel is 3rd, he says he's #l, or is that only in Los Angeles, I get totally lost when trying to follow Arbitron. Hey, by the way Ken, do you know how John and Ken did?
Top spot for power player
Hip-hopper KPWR stays ahead of rocker KROQ. 'Kevin & Bean' climbs to first place among morning shows.
By Steve Carney, Special to The Times
Hip-hop outlet KPWR-FM (105.9) completed a year as the Southland's top radio station, while the battle for the area's favorite morning show tightened considerably with the departure of the host who controlled the time period for six years, according to the Arbitron ratings released Monday.
Though KPWR, "Power 106," slipped somewhat from the fall ratings in its percentage of the Los Angeles-Orange County audience ages 12 and up, going from 5.4% to 5%, it still kept second-place KROQ-FM (106.7) at bay. The alternative rocker garnered 4.4% of the audience during the winter quarter survey, from Jan. 2 to March 26, duplicating its mark from the fall.
But KROQ's "Kevin & Bean" morning show leapt from fourth to first place, filling a void left when the man who had an iron grip on morning drive, Renán Almendárez Coello, moved his show on Spanish-language KSCA-FM (101.9) from mornings to afternoons.
Coello held a whopping 6.8% of the audience from 6 to 10 a.m. weekdays in the fall ratings, but moved his program to 3 to 7 p.m. starting Feb. 3, saying that the morning show left him little time for other pursuits.
Coello predicted his listeners would follow him, and they did in droves. In afternoon drive, KSCA rocketed to second place with 4.9% of the audience, up from its fall showing of 24th with 1.6%. Power 106 remained No. 1 for the time slot, however.
Coello's replacement in the morning, Eddie "Piolin" Sotelo, who came from KLOK-AM in San Jose, held onto enough of the audience to maintain second place. He captured 5% of the audience, while Bill Handel at talk station KFI-AM (640) came in third, with 4.9% of the listeners.
Following up in the tight morning race -- considered radio's prime time because of the huge numbers of commuters listening in their cars -- was KPWR's Big Boy, who slipped from third place (at 4.9%) to fourth place (with 4.8%). Steve Harvey on KKBT-FM (100.3) -- who frequently has fallen in behind Coello as the top-rated English-language morning host -- dropped from second to fifth, falling from 5% of the overall audience to 4.2%.
KFI also fared well overall, its weekly share of audience rising from 3.6% to 3.7%, moving from a tie for sixth last fall to a tie for fourth this winter. Its principal talk rival, KABC-AM (790), also moved up, increasing from 2.4% and 17th place in the fall to 2.5% and a 15th place tie in the winter. FM talker KLSX (97.1) remained in a 15th-place tie with 2.5%, the same figures as in the fall.
The area's two all-news stations tied for 21st place with 2.1% of the audience. But while that represented an increase for KFWB-AM (980), which rose from 1.8% at 25th place last fall, KNX-AM (1070) fell from 2.2% and 18th place. Any benefit the stations reaped during the war with Iraq won't be reflected until the next quarterly ratings survey. |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think Handel or one of the crew has always said "most popular English morning show," which counts out Sotelo. As far as Kevin & Bean, the answer probably lies (I speculate) in the demographics: whether it's 12+, 20-50, etc. Look at how close the two were in this article; it's not a far cry that if you shift the demographic, you get a new result. Another article I read put Handel second, so there's clearly a discrepancy here.
Another explanation is that Handel used one more level of qualification: "most popular English morning show on the AM dial." Then he's first without question.
As much as I appreciate the art of piecing a proper sentence together, I sometimes wish these reporters would just spit out a table of the results rather than converting them to a "story." Makes things so much more confusing.
John & Ken? Couldn't find anything. I guess I could call the station. Couldn't have been higher than third, however, since the article accounts for first and second.
Gee, KSCA now has TWO powerhouse hosts? |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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So the other 2 stations are spanish? I have no idea, I've never listened to either one. I've only listened to John and Ken, when they held the morning spot, then Handel, when they were canned. I tried listening here and there to a few stations before J&K's return, none of them held my interest, particularly the absolutely horrid Dave and Amy that replaced John and Ken on KABC, I can't find enough adjectives to describe how horribly boring those two were. Well, I'm glad Handel did well, I'm sure he's happy with top rated english show.
I agree on the way Arbitron ratings are released, I'd prefer a simple chart as well. Like you, however, I appreciate well written articles on other things. |
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Luci Nutball

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 73
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know about those ratings, they never ask me. I like Handel and that morning crew. |
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Crimson "Misguided Station" Refugee


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1776 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi Luci,
I do too....i listen as often as i can...as early as i can
they're a lot of fun
Anne |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:19 am Post subject: NOOOOO! |
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| Resnick in an hour for the sickly Handel. NOOOOO! |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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No, I think KROQ is English.
Called and got John & Ken's numbers. They pulled a 3.7 in the 12+, about a point behind Coello assuming the number cited in the article was also the 12+ demographic. Don't know where they ranked, however. |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ken, it sounds like they did pretty well though.
You're very good at research, I like that direct approach, just call them up. You've had your e-mails read on my two favorite shows now, they must like your style, cool  |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 6:18 am Post subject: Not again! |
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Resnick again! NOOO!
Handel, get better soon. Resnick can't focus his show. They spent about 15 minutes on why he waited through long lines at three B&Rs for free ice cream scoops yesterday. On par with his Pop Tart hour the week before last. Sounds as though ol' Wayne could use some Lindora! |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, don't know if you caught today's show, but word is The Boss is planning to call the show sometime tomorrow! Could be a hoax (Kube came in with the info), but definitely worth a full listen, Cheryl.
I don't know how Marotta will get any sleep tonight. |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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As I've said before, I PREFER to hear Wayne Resnik talk about his culinary adventures....rather than political and more thought-provoking topics.
He knows his food. The last time I heard him discuss food was his hour on cereal. Easier for me to Handel when he sticks to simplistic topics.
I missed that this morning, hearing only a part of the discussion on Springsteen's friend calling in.
Ken, congratulations on your Nutball Status.
Anne |
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Crimson "Misguided Station" Refugee


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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes...I guess I hadn't signed in when I posted that ....sorry  |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ken,
I heard some of the show this morning, I heard Handel will be back tommorow, good! Resnick was wearing on my nerves.
The Boss? Bruce Springstein?
Did you hear the comment about John and Ken? Well, he didn't mention them by name, but they were running promos this morning on his show that went something like "you're not going to believe who Scott Peterson's new attorney is, today on John and Ken" anyway, Resnick commented on how glad he was to work with KFI(presumably because he could say this) and that some talk show hosts try too hard to get listeners pumped up, and that he wouldn't mention any names, but that there was a show where they generated way too much excitment over the speculation that Geragos will be representing Peterson" I can't remember word for word, but he did say "these two" and said I can just the veins popping out of this one guy's head, he was so worked up. I agree with him that it wasn't as big a deal, but hey, who is he to question the content of John and Ken's show, he would die for their time slot and ratings. People love to hate slimeball attorneys. As a matter of fact, somebody, Gallagher, I believe replied that it's contempt for slimy attorneys. He made some wild eyed leftist remark about everybody needing representation, he was doing his job, blah blah. Ken you're more awake than I am at that hour apparently, did you hear it, I know this is not verbatim, so please correct any misstatements. Thanks. |
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Don of the Dial "Legitimate and Honorable" Car Donor

Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 1908 Location: Abandoned Next to a Dead PC
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:26 pm Post subject: Handel |
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It's been said that handel does some serious, industrial strength farting into the cushion on that chair of his and that the studio stinks after he leaves it.
Remember when he chained his fartchair to a file cabinet or something so no one else could sit in it?
John ragged on one of Handel's promos the other afternoon.
It was a pretty disgusting sounding promo about something and Koby said something like, 'That's not a pretty picture'. Maybe Handel is firing back.
I notice his fartchair wasn't looted in the LA Riots. Actually, it was, but they returned it. |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


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Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Resnick is the one who said it, Handel's been out sick for a couple of days. |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 10:44 am Post subject: |
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That may be so, Don, but are you going to tell me that Resnick is any better? C'mon, the place probably smells like hamburgers after he leaves. And Paul T. Wall? Rigatoni ala Marotta CAN'T be good for the gastrointestinal tract.
Don, where did you hear that about Handel, by the way? Do you mean, Cheryl, that Resnick said the bit about Handel's gas? I don't remember that. It's a cute (but digusting!) little story.
I remember the attorney exchange. But I don't remember Wayne implicating talk show hosts or mentioning anything about getting listeners pumped up. I think he said just that there are others whom we won't mention who hate all defense attorneys by default. Perhaps he was referring to John & Ken, but I got the sense that he had an eye towards Paul and Rich with that remark. Then, Gallacher chimed in: maybe that's because they're all SLIMEBALLS? And hence, the exchange you noted. I could've missed something, though. I generally do other things as I'm listening to Handel.
Speaking of that, today's show hit a new low. No Springsteen call, no Handel AND no Gallacher? Ken takes too many vacations. Wall's great, but Gallacher's my favorite guy on the crew. All that, and what had to be the third or fourth rerun of the Dereliction of Duty interview. The only funny thing about Handel's sick days is how the cohosts tend to take over for the more feeble Resnick. That's how they meander for multiple segments on such pettiness as Baskin & Robbins, Springsteen's sexuality or Yoko Ono. Then again, maybe that's just Wayne's style... ever listen to to one of his shows? Every hour's devoted to some ridiculous little idea like his assertion that the crucifix is an unfriendly symbol or the best way to eat a Pop Tart (Resnick likes it with two "big slaps" of butter).
And yes, Crimson, I agree that Resnick is better when he's talking about junk food. It's just that I don't care much about the best way to eat a Pop Tart or, for that matter, about junk food-related matters in general. By the way, Resnick doesn't look much like his KFI portrait... I went to some Resnick fan site, and they had a picture of him. Still big, but the face doesn't quite match.
Anyway, hope you all enjoy the weekend! |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a Nutball now, allegedly. But what is the "Hats and Robes" thing? |
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Crimson "Misguided Station" Refugee


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1776 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Bill H was there this morning, because I heard him..just as he was leaving. He said Wayne was coming in again (it was about 6:30am I think)
and that tomorrow's Handel on the Law would probably be a tape.
And I don't even like Pop Tarts in any way, shape or form. Not since some slumber party I went to when I was 13 and got sick when I went home.
Hats and Robes refers to the UN representatives....as in some of the countries come in a native-type costume...long robes and hats. It's yet another John K "lexicon" term. (as is mental patient)
http://www.talkheroes.com/lexicon.html
Anne |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, that explains it. I didn't wake up until 6:35 this morning and Resnick was there, so I assumed he'd been there all morning. Did Handel mention why he left? |
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Crimson "Misguided Station" Refugee


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| If he did, I didn't hear him say why...that's the only part of the show that I heard...just that Wayne was coming in for him, and some conversation on the phone with Rich Marotta from somewhere else, then I went back to sleep |
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kenfeyl Mental Patient


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm... about John & Ken ragging on Handel's promos, do you remember which? Actually, I think they might be firing back on Handel for ordering cease-and-desist on their "you had to be there" promo during his show. But seriously, I don't remember any disgusting Handel promo. There was the time he said Lang rather than Lynch, but even that wasn't disgusting. So which was it? |
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Cheryl JOHN AND KEN Security Goon


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ken,
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still not convinced it wasn't John and Ken he was referring to, they had just done that segment on the new Peterson atty the day before and then the promo was running, where John was ranting about the guy. It just seems too coincidental to me. I could be wrong, but I have to wonder.
I have never heard the story of Handel's flatuence problem, lol, It is funny. I'll have to see if that Kfi ditto cam is working, and take a look at Handel's infamous chair.
By the time I woke up it was Resnick unfortunately. |
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