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Don of the Dial "Beard Scratcher" College Professor


Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 2128 Location: 3rd Cloud on the Right
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:15 pm Post subject: don of the dial - mia |
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hello...my pc semie carshed so i am at a library doing some bill paying and catch up.
my pc is missing some essential file that prevent windows from kicking
emm383.exe 'missing or corrupted
damn!!!
i still ned to get ot fixed.
any clues...aside from paying some one big bucks since i am going to buy a pc in a few day any way.
maybe i will cjeck in her tomorrow.
sory for they typos.new keyboard and stuff here at the good old library
dotd _________________ A scouring fire shall avenge us and return our forsaken freedoms!
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Transverz Talkheroes Honored Member


Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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From my preliminary research, EMM383.exe is a memory manager that is halting your system, most likely due to a memory problem or program error.
In other words, I have no current clue how to fix this. Also, I have no idea what Windows you are using, BUT, what I can say is that if you could possibly get Windows to start through safe mode or some other method, try running MSCONFIG and disabling EMM388.EXE from the startup tab.
Other things I would try that don't cost money:
1) Search for a burned out stick of RAM. If you have more than one (which I'm sure you do...you're DOTD!), take out one of them at a time until you notice a difference. If no difference, then move on to option 2...
2) *for the patient* Remove all extraneous cards and peripherals and operate at minimum hardware (motherboard, video card, minimal memory, hard drive, cd-rom, power supply, CPU, keyboard/mouse (mouse optional), and monitor. Everything else can GO. Then try going to safe mode and see if you can diagnose the problem. If doesn't work, move on to option 3...
3) Re-install Windows: I hate to prescribe such measures without resolving the problem on it's own, but hey, we're in desperate times. This *SHOULD* retain all your files (save for maybe My Documents folder) and get Windows to start fresh again. If doesn't work, move on to option 4...
*CAUTION: NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART*
4) Reformat computer: If you are comfortably backed up with your data, I say reformat the darned thing. THAT'LL TEACH IT! A hardware problem is often times hard to diagnose as it could be most anything, but if it's a software problem, either the Windows reinstall or certainly the reformatting will just about do it.
*Transverz's powerful disclaimer*: All advice taken within holds Transverz NOT responsible for tragic consequences such as loss of data, bodily harm, and foul mood. Follow at yer own risk! I am just some geek, not an expert. Thank you. _________________ YOU *WILL* SUFFER ME! |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 2005 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Transverz,
I'm pretty sure Don is using Windows 95. I say upgrade....better yet, the new pc sounds best. We can help him fix his old one....maybe even upgrade to 98. 
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MagiCat Token Democrat

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 657 Location: Democratic Party Headquarters
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Transverz,
I'm pretty sure Don is using Windows 95. |
Assuming Windows 95, one question to ask is if it's worth even taking the time to troubleshoot everything since this would mean that the computer is likely about 8 years old and a new computer can be gotten for about $500 that's going to be approximately 20 times the speed.
Also assuming about a 800MB hard disk, all that would need to be done is hook it up to the new computers IDE chain and just copy the entire disk over to an empty directory on the disk (would be about of the new computers HD space.)
As for troubleshooting the problem, one thing is to know what the last programs installed in the system were. That might give a good head start as to what's going on. You might be able to boot up into Safe mode or into command line mode to where you can look around and possibly delete the offending program. _________________ I'm Mark W. Thompson and I approve this message. |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 2005 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Magicat,
I have to agree with your first two paragraphs.
Plus, Don.....have you done any updates, patches, etc to MS ?
And what about an antivirus, and spyware program updates? A new PC would be almost a blessing in disguise at this point.  |
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Cheryl "Mouse Management" Member


Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 2630
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh Don, sorry about the pc nervous breakdown. I wish I could be of some help but the others here are much better at diagnosing computer problems.
I'm thinking about a windows upgrade. I have windows 98. I did have XP, but had disconnect problems continuously. Since switching back, no more problems. My niece had the same problem, she installed windows XP, only to be disconnected every few minutes.
I don't know. When everything's working right, I hate to make changes. _________________ Ssshh!! |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 2005 Location: Sherman Oaks
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Cheryl,
Wtf?................You went back to Windows 98? I'd be willing to bet you a grocery bill at Trader Joe's that it's AOL that is the culprit. Damned them.
Or, if not Aol, specifically.....that Klemz worm...let me know. That would have disconnected you every 60 seconds..geez. You're missing a lot to not be on Windows XP. (it's faster)
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MrKABC Site Administrator

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 1422 Location: Behind the Golden EIB Microphone
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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How about copy the EMM386.EXE file from a DOS bootup disk to your hard drive? If I remember correctly (this goes back a few years!!!) the Windows 95 emergency boot floppy had that file on it.
If not, I am sure Magicat or myself could dig it up and send it to you.  _________________
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mr KABC,
Do they still exist? Shhhhhhhhhhh. I'm thinking Don would really enjoy Windows98 on his NEW PC.  |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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omg...omg...I'm a Gerald Silver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A NIMBY from Encino!  |
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MagiCat Token Democrat

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 657 Location: Democratic Party Headquarters
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Cheryl wrote: |
I'm thinking about a windows upgrade. I have windows 98. I did have XP, but had disconnect problems continuously. Since switching back, no more problems. My niece had the same problem, she installed windows XP, only to be disconnected every few minutes.
I don't know. When everything's working right, I hate to make changes. |
One basic thing I've learned in working with Steph's computers and mine, upgrading to XP has a lot of troubles. Best thing you can do is get a Dell or something like that if finances permit. You get a computer that you know will work and won't have to worry about integration problems. _________________ I'm Mark W. Thompson and I approve this message. |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Back to my Original Comment to Don of the Dial......
Get that new PC. Start fresh, and as you can see, all of your online buddies here will help you play around with your Collector's Item Windows 95.  |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you want to count on that "Wizard" Jeff Levy.................yeah there's the ticket. Call into the show Saturday or Sunday, and Bingo!!
Jeff: I'm going to HELP YOU buy a computer. Leave your number with my screener.  |
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MagiCat Token Democrat

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 657 Location: Democratic Party Headquarters
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Art, remember when we were desparately looking for the latest updated betas of Windows 95, I think they named it that for the number of floppy disks it came on!!! Ok, I'm exagerating, it only was 27 disks for one version  _________________ I'm Mark W. Thompson and I approve this message. |
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Transverz Talkheroes Honored Member


Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Guys, guys, guys, and gals...
Windows XP is not as evil as you think it to be! In my extremely humble opinion, every single computer I have installed with WinXP, from newly built to old enough that can handle it, have been rock solid and SUPERBLY greater than Win98 or *gulp* Win95!
In my experience, WinXP has been SO much easier to deal with, installation is a BREEZE, compatible with everything fast enough to handle it, and contains all the necessities plus more in one package! And SO many less drivers to deal with. ARGH to drivers.
I know. I was there too, at first. I was the HUGEST anti-WinXPer and I understand why. And I'm sure all of you hate me by now haha. But after seeing it on everyone's computers while I was stuck in Win98-land, I was wondering what all the hullabaloo was about. Then I saw the light. WinXP almost never crashes on it's own (I bring it down more than anything ), the memory management is NO comparison to Win98 and others, all in all, it made computing just straight out more fun. Plugging in my camera, my pen drive, external hard disks, camcorders, and etc is nothing to even think about anymore. With Win98 and all of them, it was a huge production to plug anything in.
ANYWAY, I don't have stock in Microsoft nor do I love them, so enough about WinXP. I just wanted to share my experience that if you have the hardware to handle it (of course), then WinXP has proven extra-great time and again in MY book. As it seems, other experiences may vary
ANYWHO, as for DOTD's situation, I agree, put the Win95 machine in the tinkering corner and do your daily tasks on a great new PC. Although I cannot refute Dell's reliability and customer service, I recommend almost no other brand name PC. I actually put in the vote to build your own. It is a BLAST building your own, you learn so much more, you have the ability to save TONS of money (or spend much more if you are a picky geek like me), and you get exactly what you want for the purposes you want. Buying brand name always tends you to sacrifice in one way or another. But custom building gets you the direction of your situation like no other. If you knew that already, forgive me...just trying to cover all the bases!
And HAHA, yeah, I remember all the disks ALL old programs used to come on. OH BOY, MS Word and AutoCAD were some of the wieldiest abominations I had ever seen. HHAHA...
Good luck! _________________ YOU *WILL* SUFFER ME! |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Great post, Transverz!
And he he he.....let us not forget the fabulous and fatal (at least to my laptop) pairing of Windows98 and IE 6.
You don't have to sell this chick on Windows XP. That's what I have right here on my PC. The best feature it has, I agree......is the ease at identifying hardware and going right to the drive, e.g. installing a new toy like a digital or web cam is accomplished in about 2 minutes, up and running
OK, Don....you've gotten our opinions. .......now get out of that Library
and go get your new PC so you can tell us all about it. |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, and do yourself a favor....spring for DSL or cable. Don't waste your new XP on dialup! You will be amazed at the speed. |
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dvScotty Princess Diana Hand Wringer


Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 443 Location: Moorpark, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you Crimson. We went from AOHell dial-up at home on our Windows XP Dell desktop to Adelphia cable modem. Wow what a difference!!!!! I swear I'm getting better speeds at home with my cable modem than I get here at work with the T1 connection. Transverz, I admire you for building your own system - I'm just not that brave (or smart) when it comes to computers. Hey, how about taking over for Jeff Levy on weekends? Howz your radio voice ? |
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Cheryl "Mouse Management" Member


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:06 am Post subject: |
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You guys think I should re-install windows xp then?
Is there still a problem with AOL and windows xp?
Ok I did like it, when I was able to stay on line for more than 10 minutes, maybe I'll give it another go. _________________ Ssshh!! |
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MagiCat Token Democrat

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 657 Location: Democratic Party Headquarters
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Cheryl wrote: |
You guys think I should re-install windows xp then?
Is there still a problem with AOL and windows xp?
Ok I did like it, when I was able to stay on line for more than 10 minutes, maybe I'll give it another go. |
I tend to vote no just because if you had a problem once with XP then you're likely to have it again. I notice that if XP works on a system, it works great (better than Windows 9 , but if it doesn't work after minor tweaking, then pretty much nothing you can do to ever make it work.
Transverse is right that most computers can handle it, I've upgraded approximately 15 computers from 98 to XP, but the one computer that should've been able to handle it never worked right again and I spent hour upon hour trying to get it to work correctly. _________________ I'm Mark W. Thompson and I approve this message. |
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Transverz Talkheroes Honored Member


Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Agreed and great point, Magicat...
The only time when I say WinXP isn't an upgrade over anything else is of course it doesn't play well with a mission critical program (Like your internet connection, of course!) But hmm, I am in very much doubt that AOL (in all the high $$$ glory) would ever release anything incompatible with the most popular OS in the world (in the desktop world, at least).
Crimson, hmm...maybe your AOL (dial-up, I presume) troubles were a result of an improper setting? Dial up is such a sordid mess anyway. But above all, if Win98 does work for you, working is TONS better than not working
On to my next platform: CABLE INTERNET ROCKS!
Okay, I'm sure it varies from provider to provider, but first of all, just between DSL and Cable, Cable is tremendously simplified and FAST. Of course one can be faster than another, but everyone I've seen on Cable has been BLAZING, while DSL speeds tend to vary.
But anyway, I've had the pleasure of being on Adelphia Powerlink now for about 5 months and let's just say, life became a whole lot brighter. The struggles were over. All those damn settings, dialing-in, waiting around for other people to stop using the connection, etc, were ALL gone. After our wireless router was installed, it's like I crawled out of a kiddie pool and jumped into the ocean!
So yeah, my 10 thumbs up for cable internet and Adelphia Powerlink. Of course, user experience may vary. Consult your physician for more details. Please, drink responsibly. Insured by the FDIC. _________________ YOU *WILL* SUFFER ME! |
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Crimson Talk Radio ADDICT


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Cheryl,
I still think the problem you have with AOL compatibility with Windows XP is because you are using AOL 8.0 or maybe even 9.0 (not sure if you upgraded to 9.0)
I still kept my AOL for using when I travel. I upgraded to AOL 8.0 when it first came out. Seemed to work for a month or so with my XP here at home on my PC (I still use it for some e-mail).....then I started having trouble. Browser problems...freezing up...etc.
I went back to AOL 7.0 and it's fine now. (I'll e mail you with the rest of it.....) |
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Transverz Talkheroes Honored Member


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Oh, and one more thing...
Building your own PC is not that difficult at all! I am a neaderthal at best, so I am sure ANYBODY can do it. The only thing I would have to say is that experience helps you get through the problems and smoothens out the process. But the actual figuring out the building process has never been easier! Everything has become simplified and clean. Well, most everything...
Those SATA drives were a PAIN! But damn are they nice
And my radio voice? Well, I did DJ and co-host a radio show on PFR (Pasadena Free Radio) for about a year. Of course, if you aren't used to it, EVERYONE hates hearing their own voice and mine was EXTRA ANNOYING. But after a while, you get to working on the lesser qualities of your voice and you get used to hearing youself, and after our show's run was over, I went from unlistenable to just slightly annoying! haha
That was definitely a load of fun and really made me appreciate the talent and skill needed to host a show and technically run the boards and everything else. The preparation and planning of the segments was pretty challenging due to time constraints. And lugging two turntables, a mixer, and 3-4 crates of records was HARD WORK. But everything else about the experience was mostly fun, fun, fun! Kind of a dream job really... *sigh* Know anyone that could use a young, able-bodied technical director or music director? In training, of course...  _________________ YOU *WILL* SUFFER ME! |
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MagiCat Token Democrat

Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 657 Location: Democratic Party Headquarters
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Transverz wrote: |
Oh, and one more thing...
Building your own PC is not that difficult at all! I am a neaderthal at best, so I am sure ANYBODY can do it. The only thing I would have to say is that experience helps you get through the problems and smoothens out the process. But the actual figuring out the building process has never been easier! Everything has become simplified and clean. Well, most everything...
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The building part is easy, just go to Frys and buy all the parts. We got Steph a P4 Celeron 2.4 ghz with motherboard for $79, total cost for everything ended up being about $300 not including the operating system and monitor. 9 times out of 10, everything works great. The tough part is that 10th time, since everything's new, you end up having to have good troubleshooting skills.
When doing Steph's PC, first thing I suspected was the new motherboard, I returned it and they were supposedly going to replace it. Problem never went away and I ended up getting totally frustrated until I realized that they never actually swapped the motherboard, they gave me the old one back. A week later, problems are gone and she has a working PC. _________________ I'm Mark W. Thompson and I approve this message. |
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Transverz Talkheroes Honored Member


Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Great troubleshooting! Every time I build a PC, there is always one new problem that I tackle and eventually get over. Some, less obvious than others, but still a great learning experience!
I highly recommend buying parts at the computer show (i.e. the Pomona Fairplex one). Awesome hardware, great prices, great selection. The trick is knowing exactly what you want and the current standard price. There are always at least 4 or more vendors selling the same motherboard or whatnot, and after making your rounds around the entire show, you find who has the cheapest prices for every part. I recently built a video-editing PC with:
P4 2.4C Ghz w/ HT (800mhz)
MSI Neo2-LS mobo
512MB PC3200 Kingston
Maxtor 120GB SATA HDD
MSI NVIDIA FX5600 256MB (whoa!)
600W P.S. (26A +12V rating, wow!)
Samsung 52x24x52 CD-RW
beautiful tower, case fans, floppy, and CPU H.S.F.
for under $700!!! Granted, $700 in and of itself is a bit of money, but for this kind of a setup, that was awesome!
Whoa, I geeked out pretty hard there. Apologies.
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