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Don of the Dial

OK...If I heard correctly on KFI this afternoon, our for now president GWBush has come out in favor of amensty for all illegals now in the USA.

If this be true, it is all over for Bush as far as I am concerned.

WHAT about our borders and sovereignty, Mr. Bush? If we don't have a country, what do we need you for?

This is too much and I hope to God it comes back and bites Bush in his tumbleweed and oil ensconsed

I will NOT vote for any candidate who ignores what is the United States of America.
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:45 am Post subject:

No one else has any comments on this revolting developement?

Cheryl · Feudal Lord Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 3697

I can't bring myself to totally blast my president for this, I can't believe he said that, I'd have to see the comments in context before taking that leap. Is it possible John was referring to Ridge's statements earlier in the week? Maybe he was referring to the "administration".
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject:

I would suggest checking another news source.

This is a BIG step to take. Shouldn't we all know for certain?

Perhaps the NYTimes or WashPost.

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MrKABC · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:41 am Post subject:

Yes, Bush has mentioned yet ANOTHER amnesty program. I think it was an attempt to curry favor with Vincente Fox. But I thought it went by the wayside when Fox refused to support the war on Iraq. Last I heard, relations between the two were "chilly"

You are right though, yet another amnesty program is not in our interests. I am disgusted that we can't and won't do more to control our borders.
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I'm willing to bet you're right, I don't think President Bush would alienate his base that way, he knows the polls, that wouldn't be a wise political move, and there's no advantage to it.
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:17 am Post subject:

washingtonpost.com > Politics > Federal Page > The Administration

Immigration Reform on Bush Agenda

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 24, 2003; Page A01

President Bush plans to kick off his reelection year by proposing a program that would make it easier for immigrants to work legally in the United States, in what would constitute the most significant changes to immigration law in 18 years, Republican officials said yesterday.

Lobbyists working with the White House said Bush is developing a plan that would allow immigrants to cross the border legally if jobs are waiting for them. The sources said the administration also wants to provide a way for some undocumented workers in the United States to move toward legal status.

Bush will try to make the plan more palatable to conservatives by including stricter entry controls, including increased use of technology at the border and steps toward better enforcement of current visa restrictions and reporting requirements, sources said.

Bush said at his year-end news conference last week that he was preparing to send Congress recommendations for an "immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee." He said he is "firmly against blanket amnesty," or a mass legalization. An estimated 8 million undocumented people live in the United States. At least half of them are Mexican, authorities said.

White House aides would not provide details of the proposal, but the Republican officials said it draws on, among other sources, a bill introduced by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). It would create a Web-based job registry, to be run by the Labor Department. Employers would post job opportunities that would be available first to U.S. workers and then to prospective immigrants, who would be allowed to come under a new visa for temporary workers.

The other half of the program would be what Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge referred to earlier this month as "some kind of legal status" for undocumented workers in this country. The sources said White House officials were more skeptical about this idea than about the temporary-worker program, but they concluded that they needed a response to the large population of undocumented workers for the plan to be credible and for Bush to get credit from Hispanic voters.

The blueprint is the most ambitious of its kind since a bill signed by President Ronald Reagan in 1986 that offered legal status to millions of illegal immigrants who had moved to the United States before 1982 and imposed sanctions on employers who knowingly hired illegal immigrants.

The White House plan is being designed by Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, in consultation with the domestic policy staff. Sources said the White House's biggest concern is that the new mechanism not penalize people who had followed the law and reward those who had not. McCain's plan, which was introduced in the House by Reps. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), tries to mitigate that problem by creating a new type of visa for previously undocumented workers who would be allowed to live in the United States legally for three years. Then the workers could apply for the temporary worker visa, which would be the path to a green card, or legal permanent residency. That would amount to a three-year advantage for those who entered legally.

The Republican officials said that rather than proposing specific legislation, Bush may issue broad principles that would become part of what campaign officials call the "compassion agenda."

Administration officials said Bush will present his proposal, which is still being refined, in the second week of January, shortly before traveling to Monterrey, Mexico, for a two-day summit of leaders from throughout the Americas.

The proposal is crucial to Bush's relationship with Mexican President Vicente Fox, which was warm in Bush's first year in office but soured after he postponed any relaxation of immigration laws and Fox opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. The two leaders began repairing the relationship during a meeting in October at an international economic summit in Thailand.

Bush, who said during his campaign that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande," had been heading toward seeking an overhaul of immigration laws during his first year in office. On Sept. 6, 2001, Fox said during a White House visit that he wanted broad changes in U.S. immigration law within a year, and Bush said he hoped to "accommodate my friend."

But the plans were scuttled after the terrorist attacks five days later turned the government's attention toward restricting access to the country rather than easing it. Bush said in October 2002 that some noncitizens had "taken advantage" of America's "generous" immigration rules.

Some conservative lawmakers remain adamantly opposed to any changes that could be portrayed as encouraging immigration, and some members of the Republican congressional leadership are leery of the idea, making its outlook on Capitol Hill uncertain. But presidential advisers said they believe that Hispanic voters, one of the targets for Bush's reelection campaign, will give him credit for pushing for the changes even if nothing is enacted before the election.

Kolbe said in a telephone interview that "there's a mood for the first time since 9/11 that we have to take a look at this problem rather than just hardening the borders." He added, "The president's involvement will be critical."

A House GOP leadership aide, who insisted on anonymity, said the leaders are willing to work with Bush but think it will be a hard sell for rank-and-file members who are concerned that the plan could take jobs away from constituents. "The economic piece of it is now much more of a problem than your traditional xenophobia-type objections," the aide said.

Cecilia Muñoz, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Raza, a civil rights organization, said the danger is that Bush will propose something "that's going to sound vast and historic but that he knows can't get enacted next year."

"If what the White House proposes is credible, there's likely to be a warm response," Muñoz said. "As long as we get results, we're not going to be picky about the motive."

The proposal planned by the White House has much in common with plans that have been offered by some of the Democratic presidential candidates, most of which provide for a route to legalization for undocumented workers who have been in the country for five or six years, have a work history and can pass a background check.

Rep. Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.) calls his the Earned Legalization and Family Reunification program. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.) has called immigration reform "another broken promise" by Bush. Former Vermont governor Howard Dean told the Arizona Republic's editorial board that he favors earned legalization for undocumented workers who have been in the country for some time and have committed no crimes, but he sounded a note of skepticism about a guest-worker program like that proposed by McCain.

The Democrats have frequently highlighted their immigration plans in debates. A leading Bush adviser said that, given the crucial swing vote Hispanics could provide next November, "the White House feels it's got to get its irons in the fire now."

Cheryl · Feudal Lord Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 3697

I meant to comment on this earlier. Yes Don, it appears the Bush administration is going soft on illegal immigration. It frustrates the hell out of me. Everybody here knows I support President Bush, but I can't support his stance on this. I've written one letter, I'll write more.

I really can't imagine what he thinks he'll gain. The hispanics who favored the driver's license for illegals that Davis signed, for instance, was not enough to save Davis. The hispanics who support legislation aimed at softening immigration laws, are hard core Democrats, if they're citizens. I'm convinced that, even if Bushd the borders, and gave legal status to everybody, they'd vote for a democrat in the next election, no question in my mind.
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:48 am Post subject:

This is madness, yet too many keep silent.
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MrKABC · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

I for one am disappointed in Bush's stance.

I believe in controlled, legal immigration. I do not believe inng our borders to wantonly allow anyone in.

The analogy I like to think of is allowing anyone onto a life raft - too many people in and the whole raft sinks.
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:00 am Post subject: more crud from bush

now what? I will vote against him and if he thinks he can curry favor with pro-immigration voters, he will be way out-numbered by anti-immigration voters...so take that, Bushy!

So is this some trick or what???

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Bush to Propose Immigration Law Changes

January 6, 2004 08:14 AM EST

WASHINGTON - President Bush is proposing to let foreign workers who have U.S. jobs waiting for them enter America - a move designed to help repair relations with Mexico and capture Latino voters in this year's election.

The president has been silent on the immigration issue for two years, but advocacy groups are being invited to the White House on Wednesday to hear details of a proposal to match willing foreign workers, mostly from Mexico, with receptive U.S. employers.

There are an estimated 10 million undocumented workers in the United States, as many as half of them from Mexico.

"The president has long talked about the importance of having an immigration policy that matches willing workers with willing employers," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Monday. "It's important for America to be a welcoming society. We are a nation of immigrants, and we're better for it."

The announcement comes just before Bush's scheduled meeting with Mexico's President Vicente Fox next week at the Summit of the Americas in Monterey, Mexico. Mexican officials have complained bitterly at times that while the Bush administration has sought their help with border security and combatting drug trafficking, they have not acted on their desire for favorable changes in U.S. immigration policy.

Mexican officials have complained that the Bush administration has used post-Sept. 11 security concerns as an excuse to better protect, rather than allow freer movement over the U.S.-Mexican border. Tense relations were further aggravated by Mexico's decision not to support the U.S.-led war in Iraq, and when Bush refused to stop the execution of a Mexican national in Texas.

Details of Bush's proposal have been sketchy, yet immigration policy groups already are suspicious that it is an election-year ploy to curry favor with Hispanics, an important voting bloc for Bush, especially in Florida and in border states such as California, which are flush with electoral votes.

"A proposal that is serious, comprehensive and worthy of bipartisan support will be warmly welcomed by those who follow these issues closely, including Latino and immigrant voters," according to a statement issued by the National Immigration Forum, which advocates immigration policies that welcome immigrants and refugees. "Proposals that are more posture than substance will be dismissed as election-year antics."

Two sources speaking on condition of anonymity said Bush would outline a set of principles rather than a detailed piece of legislation, and that the policy statement would draw on bills already pending in Congress.

"It looks very much like a political effort and what they do with these `principles' is going to determine whether this is really a policy initiative or not," said Cecilia Mono, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Razz. "The Latino community knows the difference between political posturing and a real policy debate."

She said the initiative was crafted by Bush's political strategist, Karl Rove, and that the immigration policy community was excluded from the deliberations.

"We have been asking the White House to get back to this debate for two years," she said. "It's a good thing that they're moving forward, but it needs to be action, not just talk."

The administration began foreshadowing a possible change in U.S. immigration policy late last year.

In November, Secretary of State Colin Powell met in Washington with Mexican officials on the issue of cross-border migration, and raised the possibility that changes could be approved this year. In December, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said in Miami that the United States needed to "come to grips" with the millions of illegal immigrants and give them some kind of "legal status." Bush followed up at a year-end news conference, saying he was getting ready to send a recommendation to Congress.

Two guest-worker bills have been proposed in Congress: One from Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain and two of his Republican House colleagues, Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake; and a second from Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

Cheryl · Feudal Lord Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 3697

Well, it could be worse, don't get me wrong, I hate this, but at least it's those who have a job, and they'll have to pay taxes, and we'll be able to track them. I just don't get it, what possible benefit is he getting from this?

I will vote for Bush, simply because I'm not a one issue voter, even one this big, and of course, the alternatives are unthinkable, most demos wantand free borders.

Hannity is livid over this thing, he started his program today, with a tirade against it. As he pointed out though, you have to ask yourself, are we a safer nation today, and is the economy stronger than when he took office? The answers to both are yes.
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Don of the Dial · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject:

what is the point in having a 'safe'...which is pure b/s...country and a 'stronger'....where?...economy...if we sell out the country and it's sovereignty to another, lesser, poorer and diffferently cultured country. Brick wall

Comparing the one to another is apples and oranges comparisons.

I AM a one issue voter if the one issue SELLS OUT this nation!!! Mad

why do you think that Bush is such a saint? Question

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Cheryl · Feudal Lord Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 3697

I didn't say he was a saint. In my opinion, he's been a good wartime president, the economy is picking up speed, and like I said, I don't like the immigration proposal, but it could be worse, and would be, if the candidate were a democrat.

Ken offered one explaination as to why President Bush is so soft on immigration. Latinos voted for him in big numbers in Texas, he thinks they will do the same again. I disagree, but that explains it.

GW is a good guy, I think he believes in what he's doing, I just think he's wrong.
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Crimson · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject:

I've said it before...and I'll repeat it...Listen to Doug Mc Intyre's take on this...

I haven't commented yet, because I'm still listening every night. If we don't vote for Bush, who's left?

The Dems want illegals for votes and to keep their social programs going.
(although I'll never understand that one...wouldn't it be better to halt the illegal influx and not spend so much?) I suppose votes are worth it.

Someone called in a few nights ago stating that they thought the Dems push for it to have more money into the Social Security System...I don't know..it all makes me sick, I can hardly think nor post about it.

And then the Reps...they want more immigration for cheap labor.

I'm so disappointed in them...it's revolting.

Don of the Dial · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject:

THERE is a secret agenda at play here. I don't know what the objective is, but there is NO logical,reason why we should turn the state and the country over to impoverished peasants.
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MrKABC · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:17 am Post subject:

I am with DotD on this one... I can't see the wisdom of the strategy Bush is employing.

I am a staunch supporter of Bush, but this time he seems to have fallen off the turnip truck.

WHY threaten our people, our sovereignty, and our safety with appeasement of third world countries that are anxious to dump their refugees on us?

I am confused. If this keeps up, one day there really will be a nation of Aztlan and Bustamecha will be in charge.
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Cheryl · Feudal Lord Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 3697

Hey, I also disapprove of this immigration policy. I don't like it at all. The disagreement comes where Don says he won't vote for him, but I can't see voting for Dean, or Nader, or anybody else for that matter, because that would be much worse.

Just my .02

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Crimson · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:

OK, I've tuned in now to Doug McIntyre...he's trying to pick it all apart and make sense of this plan..but so far, he cannot...

I wish I could capture this whole show and send you the download. I have heard no one state the contempt we all feel right now about Bush, and the Dems that are going along with it.

omg...he's saying it's being done for 2 reasons

1. A payback for the campaign contributers
2. Bush thinks he'll win the hispanic vote this way

WHERE'S OUR NATIONAL Pride, etc?

I swear, that if Bush keeps this crap up...he's lost MY vote.

ugh...go look at howard dean's website (nauseating)

"America is an immigrant nation. As President, I will recognize and respect the vital role immigrants have played in building the American community.

Candidate Bush promised that he would be a different kind of Republican, supportive of immigrants and their desires to achieve the American Dream. Candidate Bush promised to revamp the naturalization process so that immigrants who met the requirements could obtain their citizenship in six months or less. In 2001, President Bush said he would work with President Fox of Mexico to develop a new immigration policy that recognized the economic contribution of immigrants, particularly those from Mexico, and that would respect the human rights of these migrants.

Unfortunately, President Bush has not kept these promises.

While he made these promises and invited mariachis to play at the White House, his Attorney General, John Ashcroft, was deputizing local police authorities as junior INS agents to track down undocumented immigrants. Instead of exercising leadership to achieve comprehensive immigration reform, President Bush has turned his back on Mexico and other Latin American countries. He has ignored the dreams of millions of immigrants to become a legitimate part of our society, and not simply its unseen workforce. Instead of revamping and streamlining the immigration agency and its processes, the President has allowed the agency to be swallowed up into the Department of Homeland Security, where immigrants are routinely treated as terrorists until proven otherwise.

We need a White House that will lead Congress to enact real immigration reform. As President, I will work tirelessly to achieve that goal.

I will work to ensure that people who work hard, pay taxes, and otherwise obey the rules can become full participants in our society, including becoming citizens.
I will work to regularize the inevitable future migration of labor in a way that makes economic and humanitarian sense. Deaths in the desert do neither.
I will propose reforms that ensure we can meet our economy’s need for workers at all skill levels, without pitting foreign workers against U.S. workers and while respecting workers' rights including the right to organize.
I will work to forge stronger partnerships with countries from which immigrants migrate -- especially Mexico -- so that in the long run, fewer people will be driven by desperation to break laws and risk their lives for basic opportunities that every human being deserves.
I will work to ensure that immigrants who are detained by the Department of Homeland Security are afforded their basic civil rights and that our concern for national security does not become another excuse for racial profiling.
I will build on our country’s long history of welcoming immigrants in ways that reflect our need for security but do not sacrifice the basic ideals upon which this nation was founded."

F*** Me to Tears

Crimson · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:17 am Post subject:

Can't WE do something to stop this??????

dvScotty · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:40 am Post subject:

It seems that GWB is taking advantage of his loyalists and trying to get more votes from not only the Hispanics, but the supporters of the law-breaking ILLEGAL aliens. It makes me terribly sick - yeah Crimson, I wish there WAS something we could do. When I go to the extreme of thinking about NOT voting for GWB, I realize there is NOBODY else to vote for: Nikita Dean, French-looking John F---ing Kerry, Al Sharpton? I suppose Lieberman is the best of the bad bunch, but GWB is still a much better choice than him. Maybe that's his rationale - who else are they gonna vote for if they don't like my ideas on the illegals? Hopefully this is just to get votes, and he actually does nothing about it after he gets elected. I can't wait until 2008.

Crimson · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:47 am Post subject:

DV,

LMAO at "Nikita Dean."

(My friend up in Canada, who listens to John and Ken and Bill Handel on the stream...calls Bush, "Jorge W."
He named "Dr Whora" for us too.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh! I got so mad last night I did something that I have never done. I sent an e-mail to:

president

I plainly stated that I voted for him, but that he would not be getting my vote this time. And I told him why.

I'm sure the workers who read the e-mails got a good laugh of mine, but I don't care. I'm angry. It won't do a bit of good, but I felt better after sending it....sorta.
Maybe I'll post the content later.

(I'm getting as bad as my little elderly neighbor. Embarassed

She writes and calls politicians almost daily...but she's in the other camp.)

EvilBunnySlippers · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject:

Bush Calls for Immigration Overhaul
1 hour, 12 minutes ago

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) called Wednesday for a major overhaul of America's immigration system to grant legal status to millions of undocumented workers in the United States, saying the current program is not working.

"Out of common sense and fairness, our laws should allow willing workers to enter our country and fill jobs that Americans are not filling," the president said in an East Room speech to members of Congress, his Cabinet and immigrant advocacy groups.

Bush's election-year proposal is designed to win support among Hispanic voters while helping meet the needs of American employers. His plan would create a temporary worker program for undocumented workers now in the United States and those in other countries who have been offered employment here.

"As a nation that values immigrants and depends on immigrants, we should have immigration laws that work and make us proud," the president said. "Yet today we do not. Instead we see many employers turning to the illegal labor market. We see millions of hard-working men and women condemned to fear and insecurity in a massive undocumented economy.

"Illegal entry across our borders makes more difficult the urgent task of securing the homeland," the president said.

Bush said his proposals, if enacted by Congress, would provide a more compassionate system for immigrants who now live in the shadows of American society.

"Decent, hard-working people will now be protected by labor laws with the right to change jobs, earn fair wages and enjoy the same working conditions that the law requires for American workers," the president said.

While offering new opportunities for undocumented workers, Bush said the proposal would not provide blanket amnesty for foreigners who are in the United States illegally.

"I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship," he said. "Granting amnesty encourages violation of our laws and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America."

Bush said his proposals would strengthen America's borders and make the nation more secure by providing more accountability of those who enter the United States. He said it also would allow law enforcement officials to focus more on real threats.

"America is acting on a basic belief: Our borders should beto legal travel and honest trade; our borders should be shut and barred tight to criminals, to drug traders, drug traffickers and to criminals and to terrorists."

Bush called Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) to brief him before announcing his proposals.

Bush's proposals break a virtual silence on immigration since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks raised fears about border security.

The president argues that his plan would make America safer by giving the government a better idea of who was crossing U.S. borders, bolster the economy by meeting employers' need for willing low-wage workers, and fulfill a mandate for compassion by guaranteeing the rights and legitimacy of illegal workers.

By dangling the prospect of legal status to some 8 million illegal immigrants now estimated to be in this country, about half of them Mexican, Bush was granting a top priority of the business community while making his most aggressive move yet to court Hispanic voters — the nation's fastest-growing electoral bloc.

He won just over one-third of that constituency in 2000 but wants to expand his support in the community to better his chances for re-election in November.

The proposal would provide a way for illegal immigrants who can show they have employment to work legally, although temporarily, in the United States. The new "temporary worker program," which also would include people still in their native countries who have a job lined up in the United States, would not, like the temporary visa programs already in existence that involve mostly technical experts, apply only to a certain sector of the economy or industry. Much of the detail of president's proposal was to be worked out by Congress in future negotiations with the White House.

For instance, Bush wants to increase the nation's yearly allotment of green cards that allow for permanent U.S. residency, but won't say by how much, the officials said. Around 1 million green cards a year are issued now, though just 140,000 of them are employment-based.

He also wants the workers' first three-year term in the program to be renewable but won't say for how long; he won't set the amount workers should pay to apply for the program; and he won't specify how to enforce the requirement that no American worker wants the job the foreign worker is taking, according to administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Perhaps the biggest unresolved question is how the plan will allow illegal immigrants access, which they do not now have, to the process of applying for green cards, or permanent U.S. residency.

Sensitive to the opposition of many conservatives in Bush's own party to any reward for those who broke the law when they entered the United States, the administration said it is not proposing blanket amnesty for illegals and the program is not linked to the green card process.

But the White House also said that workers accepted into the temporary program could immediately, with an employer's sponsorship, begin applying for a green card. Although these workers would get no advantage over other applicants, an illegal immigrant who attempted to apply now would simply be deported.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040107/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_immigration_32
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EvilBunnySlippers · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject:

Well, there it is. From his own mouth. I think I am going to be sick, or cry, or both. I have no one to vote for. I am not voting for Dean or any of those morons. Although Bush is the lesser of the evils, I just don't know what I'm going to do. He betrayed us because he knew we would vote for him anyway...who else are we going to elect DEAN?...ugh..this is one big fat freaking nightmare Evil or Very Mad

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Crimson · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject:

Well, isn't this freakin' nice?

Bush BRIEFED Vicente Fox BEFORE he told US what's going on?

Evil or Very Mad

"Bush called Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) to brief him before announcing his proposals."

John K. just said that the only thing he can think of is that Vicente Fox must have compromising pictures of Bush.

And we had to hear Loretta Sanchez's mouth on the news. We all KNEW it was wrong to put HER on the Homeland Security Council. GEEZ